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	<title>Comments on: Why John&#8217;s Liana Belongs to the Borage Family</title>
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	<description>Learning a savanna in Panama, plant by plant</description>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patrick,

Thanks for your appreciative comment. I&#039;m hoping that someone in Panama will see your comment here and will reply. If not, you might consider joining the Gardening in Panama yahoo group and posting your question there. Very knowledgeable people belong to that group, and if anyone can answer your questions, someone within that group will be the one to do so.

As you probably tell, this blog is focused on learning the names of the plants that I have seen here in Panama, mostly in the wild. If I were to try to grow the sandpaper vine myself, I&#039;d probably locate it growing in the wild someplace, take a cutting and try rooting it. Whatever happens in your search for the vine and the dwarf fruit trees, I wish you plenty of luck!

Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patrick,</p>
<p>Thanks for your appreciative comment. I&#8217;m hoping that someone in Panama will see your comment here and will reply. If not, you might consider joining the Gardening in Panama yahoo group and posting your question there. Very knowledgeable people belong to that group, and if anyone can answer your questions, someone within that group will be the one to do so.</p>
<p>As you probably tell, this blog is focused on learning the names of the plants that I have seen here in Panama, mostly in the wild. If I were to try to grow the sandpaper vine myself, I&#8217;d probably locate it growing in the wild someplace, take a cutting and try rooting it. Whatever happens in your search for the vine and the dwarf fruit trees, I wish you plenty of luck!</p>
<p>Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone,

My name is Patrick and this site is GREAT!  I live in the coronado area and I was hoping someone might have some information on where I may be able to get some cuttings of the sandpaper vine or A major nursery in Panama that has these BEAUTIFUL flora. On a side note has anyone heard of dwarf fruit trees here they are only 5 feet tall but produce regular size fruit. If anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.


Sincerly,


Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>My name is Patrick and this site is GREAT!  I live in the coronado area and I was hoping someone might have some information on where I may be able to get some cuttings of the sandpaper vine or A major nursery in Panama that has these BEAUTIFUL flora. On a side note has anyone heard of dwarf fruit trees here they are only 5 feet tall but produce regular size fruit. If anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Sincerly,</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

What a nice comment - thanks! Welcome to the world of plant sleuthing. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>What a nice comment &#8211; thanks! Welcome to the world of plant sleuthing. <img src='http://ntsavanna.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was great fun to enter the realm of planetary sleuthing of the sedentary sun worshippers, and has made me aware of a lifetime of ignoring extraordinary beings, at least in their names and characteristics. Quite often we see plants as an impediment that must be met with the sharp edge of a machete. But I do love plants. I&#039;m sending Mary a picture of my Panamanian higland terrarium, that I keep in my air conditioned room.
It’s good to have people like Mary setting up web sites that encourage our explorations of our surroundings, and comments like Carla’s; particularly when all you have to do is visit your backyard. 
One of the points brought home by doing so has been the sharing, not only of writing, pictures, investigative skills and information buy most of all the “emotions”, which are elicited through this bond of simple adventure. It is with real pleasure and new enthusiasm that I now walk through my garden, and anywhere else that I wander; and this is brought into focus by Mary’s quote of Darwin: &quot;...a traveler should be a botanist, for in all views plants form the chief embellishment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was great fun to enter the realm of planetary sleuthing of the sedentary sun worshippers, and has made me aware of a lifetime of ignoring extraordinary beings, at least in their names and characteristics. Quite often we see plants as an impediment that must be met with the sharp edge of a machete. But I do love plants. I&#8217;m sending Mary a picture of my Panamanian higland terrarium, that I keep in my air conditioned room.<br />
It’s good to have people like Mary setting up web sites that encourage our explorations of our surroundings, and comments like Carla’s; particularly when all you have to do is visit your backyard.<br />
One of the points brought home by doing so has been the sharing, not only of writing, pictures, investigative skills and information buy most of all the “emotions”, which are elicited through this bond of simple adventure. It is with real pleasure and new enthusiasm that I now walk through my garden, and anywhere else that I wander; and this is brought into focus by Mary’s quote of Darwin: &#8220;&#8230;a traveler should be a botanist, for in all views plants form the chief embellishment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://ntsavanna.com/johns-liana-borage-family/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - what a terrific contribution you have made to my humble blog, and I&#039;m overwhelmed at this story and your poetry, which, by the way, is pretty far removed from the more modernist poems in Dangling in the Tournefortia. My own taste leans toward your poetry.

At any rate, it&#039;s been an interesting exploration into the borage family, and it&#039;s been really a pleasure getting acquainted this way.

Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; what a terrific contribution you have made to my humble blog, and I&#8217;m overwhelmed at this story and your poetry, which, by the way, is pretty far removed from the more modernist poems in Dangling in the Tournefortia. My own taste leans toward your poetry.</p>
<p>At any rate, it&#8217;s been an interesting exploration into the borage family, and it&#8217;s been really a pleasure getting acquainted this way.</p>
<p>Mary</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if if botany and poetry go together well, here goes my contribution. A bit of history first: My Old Man, Irving Bennett, was born in Worcester, Mass and grew up in the New England area, eventually becoming a traveling auditor for the United States Fruit Co.
My mother was born in Panamá, son of George Francis Novey from New York and Amalia Garrido (Panamanian). George came to work on the Canal construction, and met my grandmother in the boarding house where he rented a room; the boarding house belonged to my grandmothers mother, who had to rent their house out after her husband passed away.
When my mother was 14, she was sent to school in New York, close to West Point. There she had a roommate who would boar her to death every night with stories about this wonderful boyfriend; who my mother never met. After several years of school, she came back to Panamá.

My Father, Irving got an offer from the Fruit Co. to go to Panamá and look over the accounting, for the accountant in Panamá had passed away. Here he met, and married Yvonne, my mother. Sometime later, my mother heard Irving singing a song in Spanish, and she said to Irving: “Where did you learn that song?” “Ho, that was way before I met you.” Yes but, how… it’s a Panamanian song.” “Well, a girlfriend I had taught it to me…” Yes, that’s right… it was my mother roommate.

Anyway, and getting back to botany &amp; poetry, our family were the first city folk who built homes in El Valle, even before the road was built. So my grandfather prefabricated the house out of wood and Celotex, and it had to be carried down to the Valley floor by mule.

We grew up in that cozy little house of cardboard that grew through the years, where most of all of our family honeymooned. The house was finally taken down last year, after more than 70 years to make way for a two story modern home that now belongs to my brother Irving. But I will never forget that chair where my father would sit with a view of “El Gaital”, the most prominent mountain in the volcano caldera that is El Valle. One day, after Irving passed away from cancer, and that his ashes lie buried just a bit off from his favorite chair; I sat there and heard the laughter of our children playing in the river. It was a windy afternoon, whit the wind swirling the drizzle that is typical to El Valle, and this is what I wrote:

Gaital

Amber glow presages the pall of ending day
	and in this hollow of fleeting solitude,
there linger in my thoughts
	times past present,
of loved ones gone and still to come.
	The distant voice of youth begotten,
chimes of cares not yet foreseen.
	In this slumberous crater of earthen fires
suffuse in drizzle,
	our kin have webbed fine strands of life&#039;s tapestry.
And though time will bring asunder,
	we still remain in dreams anew.
Joys and sorrow swirl in the winds around us;
	yet, we must foresee our path beyond,
where loves can stay and live anew.

 So, back to the Boraginaceae liana, I really enjoyed the discovery process with Mary and Michael, and looking forward to whatever else there is to know about this wonderful plant that came to my home on its own, born on wings and pop and is a source of great pleasure to winged and not winged dwellers of our Las Cumbres home.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if if botany and poetry go together well, here goes my contribution. A bit of history first: My Old Man, Irving Bennett, was born in Worcester, Mass and grew up in the New England area, eventually becoming a traveling auditor for the United States Fruit Co.<br />
My mother was born in Panamá, son of George Francis Novey from New York and Amalia Garrido (Panamanian). George came to work on the Canal construction, and met my grandmother in the boarding house where he rented a room; the boarding house belonged to my grandmothers mother, who had to rent their house out after her husband passed away.<br />
When my mother was 14, she was sent to school in New York, close to West Point. There she had a roommate who would boar her to death every night with stories about this wonderful boyfriend; who my mother never met. After several years of school, she came back to Panamá.</p>
<p>My Father, Irving got an offer from the Fruit Co. to go to Panamá and look over the accounting, for the accountant in Panamá had passed away. Here he met, and married Yvonne, my mother. Sometime later, my mother heard Irving singing a song in Spanish, and she said to Irving: “Where did you learn that song?” “Ho, that was way before I met you.” Yes but, how… it’s a Panamanian song.” “Well, a girlfriend I had taught it to me…” Yes, that’s right… it was my mother roommate.</p>
<p>Anyway, and getting back to botany &amp; poetry, our family were the first city folk who built homes in El Valle, even before the road was built. So my grandfather prefabricated the house out of wood and Celotex, and it had to be carried down to the Valley floor by mule.</p>
<p>We grew up in that cozy little house of cardboard that grew through the years, where most of all of our family honeymooned. The house was finally taken down last year, after more than 70 years to make way for a two story modern home that now belongs to my brother Irving. But I will never forget that chair where my father would sit with a view of “El Gaital”, the most prominent mountain in the volcano caldera that is El Valle. One day, after Irving passed away from cancer, and that his ashes lie buried just a bit off from his favorite chair; I sat there and heard the laughter of our children playing in the river. It was a windy afternoon, whit the wind swirling the drizzle that is typical to El Valle, and this is what I wrote:</p>
<p>Gaital</p>
<p>Amber glow presages the pall of ending day<br />
	and in this hollow of fleeting solitude,<br />
there linger in my thoughts<br />
	times past present,<br />
of loved ones gone and still to come.<br />
	The distant voice of youth begotten,<br />
chimes of cares not yet foreseen.<br />
	In this slumberous crater of earthen fires<br />
suffuse in drizzle,<br />
	our kin have webbed fine strands of life&#8217;s tapestry.<br />
And though time will bring asunder,<br />
	we still remain in dreams anew.<br />
Joys and sorrow swirl in the winds around us;<br />
	yet, we must foresee our path beyond,<br />
where loves can stay and live anew.</p>
<p> So, back to the Boraginaceae liana, I really enjoyed the discovery process with Mary and Michael, and looking forward to whatever else there is to know about this wonderful plant that came to my home on its own, born on wings and pop and is a source of great pleasure to winged and not winged dwellers of our Las Cumbres home.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Carla. Now that I&#039;ve found the MoBot Annals online (many of them, anyway), I have a little more confidence in what I see. It&#039;s lots of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Carla. Now that I&#8217;ve found the MoBot Annals online (many of them, anyway), I have a little more confidence in what I see. It&#8217;s lots of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,

Good work! I&#039;m impressed with your sleuthing skills. Nice presentation of the evidence - good going, John!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>Good work! I&#8217;m impressed with your sleuthing skills. Nice presentation of the evidence &#8211; good going, John!</p>
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